http://creatingcommons.zhdk.ch/
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First day Talk about Daphne Dragona

Commoning Infrastructure > 
Doing + (un)learning + caring + (re)imagining

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FSt: "it is always good to know when you deviate"

Fitting the commons or not. Critical copyright as a base + giving what you don't have http://artwarez.org/projects/GWYDH/

space between art and commons

expanding the notion of aesthetics

2 outcomes: a book + non-exhibition (Berlin). Mediating
1 fulltime position, 3 years

CSo: "transdisciplinarity,,, everyone wants it in an application, nobody wants it in the results"

Commons: resource + people+ processes commoning (so where is infrastructure?)

Shadowlibraries are not art projects but structures

What differences and what consequences

Finding affirmative ways of being embedded
Translating between practices. 

interdependent worldmaking

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Felix: about infrastructure + tools (not a definition)

commons as a perspective on infrastructure
infrastructure as intermediary input
low, non-discriminatory barriers to uses
means to an end, not an end
multiplicity of use

not differentiation between tools and infrastructures (??)
infrastructural tools, toolish infrastructures

Sebastian Luetgert: making arguments through software ("software as critique")

Q: Links between three meetings Creating Commons? Linear process, hierarchy between content to containers to infrastructure? [seems the meetings have been laid out that way?]
A: There was no masterplan! Research evolving. No scaling/hierarchy; not seeing infrastructure as super-structure.
We could have group most of the projects in each one of the section, it is more about going in depth in certain questions that come back again and again. Which questions and layers are relevant to whom?

I N T R O D U C T I O N S

Eva: failed interview for GWYDH, piracy project = book collection of pirated books. See Platform Giving what you do not have >  http://artwarez.org/projects/GWYDH/
Micro-politics of publishing: how to work together, how to write together. Publishing as a process not a product http://evaweinmayr.com/work/the-piracy-project-2/ 
Publishing as a feminist pedagogy, (un)boxing for women and trans asanother way of publishing

Panayotis: importance of public space. Connected to neighbourhood work in Zurich. Working as Nethood with urban planners, ... 
http://nethood.org The vision of NetHood is to plant seeds of collective awareness, critical listening, long-term thinking, social learning and reflective action toward sustainable social life. From computer science to economics to urban studies, transdiplinarity.
Central space as a commons: http://langstrasse200.ch

Urban: not Felix' student. Platform to support independent schools in Zurich (now openki). Ref. Public Shool/Sean Dockray. Not just software platform but also social dynamics around it. Movement between tools and social spaces. Currently taking a break from openki.

Femke: Constantz :-) http://www.constantvzw.org/ is a feminist media organisation in bruxelles. Back then i guess i went to a cyberfeminist meeting, she is part of the libre graphics network, develop graphic design only with free software tools, performative aspect. Practising as an artist, designer, educator among many other things. Related to publishing and making books in a broad sense. Issue of gender inside free software communities and tools (use, access, design, etc). Analysis of codes of conducts inside free software communities. Project Possible Bodies in collaboration with Jara Rocha: http://snelting.domainepublic.net/category/affiliation-cat/possible-bodies / http://possiblebodies.constantvzw.org/inventory/

Alessandro: Neural http://neural.it/ publishing on media/digital culture. Researching post-digital publishing. Has a practice as a publisher and researches the field as a whole.

Spideralex: living in Calafou, post-capitalist colony. Donestech, started in 2006. Hands-on technology developing. Also hired as a mercenary for Tactical tech, running the Gender and technology institutes. Connected to latin-american techfeminist collectives, reporting on violence in digital/physical environments. Feminist server. Is a freak of infrastructure. Editor of two collective books about technological sovereignty: https://legacy.gitbook.com/@sobtec  > https://sobtec.gitbooks.io/sobtec1/content/ + https://sobtec.gitbooks.io/sobtec2/content/

Daphne: http://creatingcommons.zhdk.ch/?p=552

Mauricio: Platoniq http://platoniq.net/en/ , thinking about how to expand access to technology. Burn station! * Goteo (https://www.goteo.org/) Trying to reinvent crowdfunding by focusing on supproting project that have a clear return on the commons (free software, free hardware, open and free licenses). Not pre-ordering but 'crowdsourcing with crowdbenefits'.  Background: design, publishing house + participatory processes regarding industrial colonies heritage in catalonia related to arquitecture. 
Goteo is alive!

Lioudmilla: book - 'Media-art as a byproduct'. She is an art historian, critic and curator. She is a research assistant at the Staatliche Hochschule für Gestaltung (HfG) in Karlsruhe. She studied philosophy at Russian State University for the Humanities (RGGU) in Moscow (1992-97), and art history and media studies at Academy of Media Arts (KHM) in Cologne (2000-04). Her research interests lie in the theory of art and media, political aesthetics, critical theory, sociology of art and criticism of the institute.

Michael: worked on publishing models and processes. xpub in Rotterdam. Wiki-like publishing structures for erg (artschool). How do new things come into the world! Active Archives.

Reports/Expectations

Dragona + Felix - revisit what participants have done. What do we need, what initiatives. What went well and what not. Failed infrastructures.
Michael + Eva - releasing etherbox, sth that connects multiple practices. Good to connect other projects. Understanding why you want to release something. Basic things: what is to be expected. Understanding what's urgent. What decisions can be made, and what decisions you cannot take the risk.
Eva - pragmatic: collaborative work. How to do that? What politics? Working on terms + conditions. Working visible + invisible. How to move between.
Panayotis - Language and translation between practices. How to do an api for that! [promiscuous api?]
Urban - Resources; time, money, ... 
Mauricio - debate in Goteo: Goteo is about making a return towards common but we can not force it, over 1000 projects have been launched since 2011, more than 75% have been successful and got funded, many of them did make some kind of return towards commons (info on the projects' licenses https://stats.goteo.org/rewards/en/0/-1000/-all-/-all-), however we are debating about making it more flexible > collective returns. Can we be flexible on this? Can we risk that?
Spideralex - decision making processes for collective infrastructures. Broken hearts. Infrastructures that free our tme outside of the system and not infrastructure that  areenslaving us. Scale + size. Mezzo levels of infra, how to move beyond the prototype stage. Micro is ok, MAcro we are not interested, mezzo is an interesting way/Scale for infrastructure but how we get there?
Lioudmilla: interest in discourse of infrastructures in art; is it the next level of institutional critique? Shift from litteral to metaphorical. Discourse history vs. social history. Infra = supra. Who pays? How long can we maintain? Economic conditions under which alternative infrastructure can exist.
"there is no hardware" :-)
Ludovico - Scale (again)! one question about scale - maybe not middleground. How can combinations of small scale stuff can reach middle level. (federation?) Enablers. Sustainability.
Femke: tools and practices, mutually shaped, there is a relation between both dimensions, need to interact. How to think that relation inside infrastructure, scales of affinities/engagements/people strategic and jump out The promiscuous API that could hold together different enrgies scale. Text about scalability and non scalability, ref??
Anna Lowenhaupt Tsing: On Nonscalability: The Living World Is Not Amenable to Precision-Nested Scales

Keep in mind using the taxonomy of commoning > 
. Pools of resources (in/tangible)
. Commoners (people (but also other agents? wondering ...))
- Commoning (processes)

Tools/infrastructures for the commons


Panoyotis: Pirate box. Ref. wordpress. Off-grid filesharing for everyone, with EU funding. Narrative: natural, accessible to everyone. It assumes its restriction. How easy should it become. Mazi toolkit. Commoning a space; even if it is an A-level location. How local is it? It is on invitation of the city council. Doing a nightschool (it is local). They cannot scale. It scales through replication? Ref: self-hosting. EU project to bring the technology 'to the surface'. In context of cooperative housing. Off-line networks unite! + off-the-cloud zone. The crazyness of captive portals. "it is easy to do a demo, you need 3 full-time developers". 4G killed the wifi-star. Importance of physical presence. The more you bring it to the ground, the more hybrid it becomes. Spaces/nodes are important. Sharing visibility space.

Eva: Enabling/disabling. AND: Different people running it. Feminists working with publishing. Set up selfpublishing platform AND PUBLIC. Not super excited about the type of books being published through the platform. How to stop a platform? "The complexity of being between between all the chairs is important"
Publication (the ultimate product) vs publishing as a verb. What does it mean to make public? We are trying to combine/work on distribution, reading, editorial work ...
 Library of Inclusions and Omissions: http://andpublishing.org/library-of-omissions-and-inclusions/  Importance of the physical space. Books as connectors. 

Let's Mobilize: What id Feminist Pedagogy? Valand Academy in Gothenburg. Critical pedagogy through male, white, Western referencing. Sparked a work on feminist pedagogy. Working group of staff and students at University. http://whatisfeministpedagogy.tumblr.com/ Language shapes what you are doing. Collective making of books is important. Turning buildings into walkable books by hanging the pages of the book blown up to posters for 3 months on walls of the academy. Thinking distribution differently = embedding content into the daily life in the institution (material presence). Tool = hammer. Not just one nail. Having hundreds of nails and other obstacles= needing a variety of tools. Being responsive/conditional. Not wanting to claim authorship/ownership. Scepticism towards terminology of commoning: it's always the framework of property. Other frameworks for sharing?
Download Feminist Pedagogy workbook: http://whatisfeministpedagogy.tumblr.com/workbook
www.andpublishing.org


Michael: http://networksofonesown.constantvzw.org/
Question of the physicality of the box. What infrastructures for physical meetings. etherbox as a way to write together. Contingencies of the server. Being responsibilized without wanting to. What is important with raspberry pi is the sd-card. It can be taken out, and it has gnu-linux on it. It has socialities embedded into this. Multi-user heritage. How do you build interfaces that do not hide these histories. Low hurdles? What does that mean? Typewriters as interfaces have a history. It is challenging to type, so how can we embrace this. This is a question of maintanance on another scale. Many people know these tools. Used in both local and world-network. Releasing etherbox ... who are we to claim it? The platform is the publication - the server as a publication. Many tools come together. It is specific, but not controlled.
Tools create discourses.
Generic vs situated

Historical note:
LAN-networking in hackerspaces. On purpose off-grid. Sharing practices. What are the strategies behind pirate box, what if it becomes mainstream - efficient?

Spideralex: different ways of presenting our boxes, ref: The Feminist piratebox - how to implement it in remote communities. Maybe pirate boxes are tools if develop by people that do not have in mind the people that will use it, with their own contexts, realities, limitations and so on, maybe pirate boxes inly become infrastructire when they are used by people that not only use them but also contribute to their "maintenance" (??)

Different timescales. 

Mauricio: Holy Trinity: financing - community - communication
goals/rewards/team. Difference with commercial platforms: return to the commons, opensource and API as part of the legacy of Goteo Foundation (+info https://github.com/GoteoFoundation/goteo). Sustainability. How to scale up. 'citizenship'. 
'you empower them' 'you are giving them the tools'
Thin lines between legal and illegal. 'We as a tool' :-)  as in the case of Valtonyc (Spanish rapper  sentenced to three years and a half of jail acused of "glorifying terrorism" > info on the case https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/24/spanish-rapper-valtonyc-begin-jail-term-vows-disobey-fascist-state and campaing at Goteo https://www.goteo.org/project/no-callarem-llibertat-valtonyc The top finance in Goteo is a contingency fund for a strike of personel of telecomunications, over 128.000€  https://www.goteo.org/project/correscales-2016
Direct and indirect crowd-benefits. Pro-actively boosting social transformation. Collaborating with different agencies, institutions, ... Translating issues?
https://fundacion.goteo.org/blog/matchfunding-crowdfunding-bajo-el-principio-de-corresponsabilidad?lang=en
https://en.goteo.org/matchfunding-match
Specific case of the Regional Government of Guipuzcoa (Vasc Country, Spain) https://vimeo.com/273906415

Femke:
stack of books. constant. working with copyleft organisations. macromedia flash was bought > all in one hand. test whether we can build a design agency on free software. changing from a commercial toolset to a free software toolset. What is the relationship between tools and design practice. Lots of research. "Open Source Publishing". still runs 5 (?) people. http://osp.kitchen/ 
First publication around Verbindingen/Jonctions X (Tracks in Electronic Fields) relationship between movement and software. WIth 3, decided to try to use LaTeX ... a tool with the promise of typographically perfect design. Donald Knuth who developed it made his own toolset fo typesetting embodying his notion of typographic beauty. The fantasy of flexibility, in the documentation was permeated with the fantasy of achieving anything, but in practice you hit the limits of a tool made for academic publishing, particularly mathematical topics. Outside of this field, the tool is difficult to use. The book includes a making of describing these difficulties. confronting the impossibility of your dream....
discussing with software developers different ways. 8 years of talking designers and software. (Title?Conversations online at http://conversations.tools ).
oragnising meeting, sending loveletters,. should have asked for other imaginations.
It's challenging to ask other to imagine new tools not just  analogs of existing ones

turning to page in the last minute much more exciting than converting from paper/ print to digital.
difficulty of working with HTML/CSS standards for print (as these technologies were/are perenially "experimental") IN effect OSP needed to build their own browser to consistenly produce printable output from HTML+CSS. See: http://osp.kitchen/tools/html2print/
Are you beeing served? Thinking about feminist servers. See: http://constantvzw.org/w/?u=http://vj14.constantvzw.org/r/about
Done on etherpad, reworked, processed into .... print.

3 -dimensional metadata systems. Google: "Inventor of the internat in Belgium". Did a wiki about Paul Otlet
http://www.mondotheque.be/

Transclusions. Bring the links /references directly into text.
Last book is Technogalatic Software Observatory see: http://constantvzw.org/site/The-Techno-Galactic-Guide-to-Software-Observation-A-streaming-book-launch.html
ad hoc mark up. Notes of a six days meeting. from experience into method, like a recipe book. collectively edited - shared notes.
Early days: sending PDFs to printers, the printer would respond that the PDF was not conformant to the "standard" (ie not made in InDesign) Exposed the frictions between fantasies  and realities of standards

Books with an attitude! http://books.constantvzw.org/


Spideralex:
    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=calafou&tbs=imgo:1
    https://calafou.org/en/content/announcing-new-publication-technological-sovereignty
    https://calafou.org/en/content/%E2%80%98hack-earth%E2%80%99-non-utopian-myth-making-calafou
    http://wiki.calafou.org/index.php/Events
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/index.php/Documentation_about_the_THF_2014
    https://zoiahorn.anarchaserver.org/
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/index.php/Anarcha_section
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page#Feminists_servers_encounters_2018:_BAFIG_Meeting_Valencia_.2B_Open_Days_Femservers_Calafou
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/images/a/a2/Servidoras-feministas.pdf
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/index.php/History_of_Anarchaserver_and_Feminists_Servers_visit_this_section#List_of_Feminist_servers
    https://anarchaserver.org/mediawiki/index.php/You_can_check_some_of_their_services_in_this_section
    https://repository.anarchaserver.org/index.php?/category/6
    https://vedetas.org/
    https://clandestina.io/#
    https://kefir.red/
    https://maadix.net/
    http://patriar.cat/
    

Calafou as the infrastructure to end all infrastructures!
Containers of infrastructures. Anarcha server is also a physical place (and beautiful). Matrioska. No money involved = peer pressure. Pressure and depression. Infra has possibilities, but also eats a lot of energies. "A perfect place to make very big mistakes". 
IN a capatialist system, it creates places where failure is not possible (lose your job, etc)

Events as part of temporal infrastructures. Minor technologies. How to make sure people do not fall. Will many small movements turn like mayonaise? 
    How to accumulate things in a sustainable way, is it an issue of time (after 7 years of work)
Anarchaserver: we are nerds, queers, trans, etc... but we didn't have servers to ready to help others/other feminist activists that needed hosting space.
Importance of meeting. Now there is systerserver. 
problem with the feminist server: there are many feminists but the are all busy, cleaning, making a poster, caring for a grandfather, at the end doing administration...
Hosting living + transitional data + dead data
Collective memories

A Virtual Machine for Transitional data
stuff you use only for a while, but then it's erased ... forever.
Different levels of care for privacy etc.
Nekrofeminist cemetary to gather all the old dead sites
Patriarcat/matriarcat

Connect agendas, to connect energies
global south vs north different reasons/motivations/needs. Be ready for the moment actual money could free up to support proper feminist server infrastructure.

Urban:
start 2009: Autonomous school in Zurich. Gimp-, osm-, Capoeira-courses. Migrant Group "Education for all". From a basic homepage, then met "The Public School". It was not open source and had precise ideas of waht could fit and not. (political philosophy) No Capoeira! Openki: organising rooms, dates, subjects.
http://openki.net/
Enabled:
Supports suggesting courses, finding mentors, finding places to host the activity, organizers, and finally participants.
Disabled: decentralized serverinfrastructure (reason: not enough resources), finding dates (planed), uploading files (disabled, no resource to support) 
pads, wiki (external services can be linked easily)

Historic:
Starting point of calendar of existing courses. Group functions. Change "course" to "project" could generalize to another kind of service.




W O R K I N G G R O U P S

*https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/creatingcommons

Synergies between projects
goteo crowdfunding, imaging collaborations between different projects around the table.
--> working towards collaborations

New forms of sustainability
How do small initiatives manage money (or how they do not manage it ;-)
(like some foundations function in free software? 
Think about new formats focused in making the sustainability of small infrastructure initiatives? umbrellas? for supporting alternatives such as networking platforms, free internet, alternative servers? can we remove the stress of looking for money or other ressources that are important for medium and long term sustainability of small initiatives volunteer working base that are not able to deal with ressources seeking and managing? 
Collective care is also part of the sustainability and resilience of a small/medium infrastructure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Conservancy --> 'a not-for-profit charity that helps promote, improve, develop, and defend Free, Libre, and Open Source  Software (FLOSS) projects.' (just as a possible model).

Micro to mezzo
Scaling up
How to address those using commercial services to switch, to a "larger audience" rather than creating strictly parallel communities.
How to educate / enlighten a larger community
How to reclaim recuperated platforms/paradigms (such as the social network?) 
Viral models? (scaling through replication).Interesting example from housing: https://www.syndikat.org/en/
Dealing with appropriation/co-optation
Abstracting as a way to make practices jump scale

Tactical (Mis)use of existing infrastructure
(this topic maybe joins with above ... parasitic as a tactic to scale from micro to larger)
Piracy / guerilla tactics reuse of some existing infrastructure: (Example of placing objects in exhibitions that were missing, taking / hacking a public infrastructure.
Parasiting what already exists, as insitututional infrastructure, that then takes a place within a host institution..

Terminologies/Shared Language
piping and jumping
commoning vocabulary

Promiscuous API's
Micro <-> Mezzo <-> Macro <-> Macro ...
Translation/bridging between scales, interests, vocabularies
The fantasy of the "pipe" connecting one tool to another, as a neutral process? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_%28Unix%29
How to prevent making yet another platform, yet another standard. The problem/promise of standards
How to build on each others work
How can similar tools work in a complementary way
Experience of the Radical networks event in Berlin https://radicalnetworks.org/
The lie of replication in FLOSS. Reuse, not reinvent. not go in parallel
not "one has to win" -- there is one more way. Living with reduncies.
Activity pub, mastodon, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software). The remaining protocol, and how/why it floats to the top (on the compost of other dead projects :-/)
There is something with the desire to connect

How to not get enslaved by infrastructures
The psycho-social costs. Maintaining infrastructure is exhausting! The importance of generations
It is not human to expect it to happen voluntarily. Alternative servers 
Situation of psycosocial burden and burn out.
The problem of ageing administrators, unable to transfer their knowledge, inability/unwillingness to take a risk, increased pressures
Pressure has increased, no new generations.
Ageing companions.

Affirmative infrastructures
what infrastructures; discussion on autonomy/dependency
relations between tools-practices-people

What is different? Which values?
Communicating to a larger audience (related to micro/mezzo?)
Configure connecting points as ACCESS, PURPOSE,  USE, MEANING, IMPACT ? for users or larger audience
As a Infrastructure, as you build on tools how makes a jump into the COST of infrastructure, indicators of sustainability (human, financial) and balanced as connected to IMPACT (Institutional/Citizenship)
Motivations, imaginations? 

Practical and symbolic use. Specialised vs general languages.
Projects have multiple goals/aims
Symbolic value, independent of how many people are using it
Software as critique
Shared resources (technical, but also in terms of desire, language) how to avoid an enclosing effect
counting on empathy?

https://www.deviantart.com/lunpi/art/Ceci-n-est-pas-une-pipe-91060034
get us out of the pipe: if we communicate something is produced
taking this surplus production into account and make use of it

different pieces, separation of skills 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yVBRDNnt1o

Creating ways of translating that avoid a 1 : 1 simplifying ? How can we can look at scaling as something that then changes. How do multiple small things come together in a way that is then larger than just the addition of the pieces.

Closing/ending/releasing/stopping/limiting infrastructure
Infrastr
Compromises, changes of scale, end of energy, handing over, letting go
Ownership -- where does it end, begin. Responsibility, commitment
Friction with infrastructures modernist desire for always growing, ever present, 24/7 access! Cool URLs don't change! :-)
Decision making process
WIthin a project, when horizontal structures who's project is it, what are the sources?
obsolete - cemeteries of infrastructures
infrastructure <--> limits .... tools for conviviality (Illich)
How do they die / how do we make them live.

Replicable/replicability toolkits for spaces
Viral houses that take spaces off the market. E.g., https://www.syndikat.org/en/
Standards to make things replicable. A standard that is not a standard.
Abstraction of processes

going beyond classifications/categorizations. (the example of people's descriptions of why they wish to share as the basis of a catalog, as opposed to 
desire ...

Is this an umbrella? Fits to all of them?

1)   desire, vision, imaginaries, symbolic dimensions (connecting different desires, metalanguage) what constitues difference?
 values (feminist pedagogy), reaching wider audiences? 
    CS, DD, MauriOB, AL, LV
    https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/creatingcommons_1
    how to reach wider audiences? bubbles of art and activism
    legal issues, make visible the problems for other people, 
    language: visual, spatial, jurispridence, financial, 
    art = business as usual, 
    redesign the problems; 
    do we ean to convince people outside 
    desire: what makes me unhappy, what do I miss?
    students not afraid of being surveilled;
    two lines
    fight propaganda with counter-propaganda?
    how to show/ demonstrate (insitutionalized environment)
    break the small bubble; speech act artist to the public;
    attracting people, general public of various levels
LANGUAGE
Propaganda: by big corporations
Example of NIKE!!!!  circle of desires
mechanism of manipulation; 
scale of complexity!  general strategy to reduce!
exposed to emotion!
art give up ironic language? language of disruption! humour!
translation of compelxity into other level of complexity!
mediation reduces complexity
Infographics
FILTERS: instrument of power; shared practice; shared filters; how do we build filters? are we filters? how are they programmed?
TOOL
SIMPLEXITY (noise <->simplifications) :
simplexit filtersystems, knowledgable
BE SWITCHERS!



2)   sustainability & resilience (finance, labour, care, intergenerational, education) 
    US, Spider, SN
    https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/creatingcommons_2
    modell to assess our own projects
various aspects, often too specific
types of labor (like, be good at and all possible combination)
new models of funding the commons, funding as commons
relation between internal and external economies
shared admin situation for commons oriented proejcts
legal status vs. more informal (infra)structures
metabolism as metaphor
rethinking reliability and responsibility
goal of infrastructure: not slave you, but free you!
danger of capitalizing/measuring labor

extended:
    
speculative models...
- different case studies

- resouces
- commoners
- commoning (as social process)

ideological burdens constraints (anarchists vs money)

- ideal model?

some dimensions to be analised when assesing sustainability and resilience of an infrastructure initiative >
constraints/context/environemet specifics: formal/informal, governance system and decision making process + continuity/discontinuity + size of the group and turn over
AND
finance - funding model
labour types
care and relationship/familiar/emotional (internal external)
inter-generational  (fluctuation)
education capacity (internal)
returns and rewards

assesing at indvidual level and collective level
> good at it + like it (enjoy it)
> good at it + do not like it
> not good at it  (yet) + like it
> not good at it (yet) + not like it

Nethood
Model: "fair research": fund projects / pay salaries to the ones researched / who's time is consumed.

- Labor and Care - make visible what,  bad balance between productive- and reproductive tasks
     Idea: all members are responsible: they have to gain own money

education: problem of efficiancy:   generalists - specialists.     easier when small organisation

self-care

Calafou:
    formal structure after 7Jears not used, now start to use it.
    finance: fuck that shit. verry expensive, somehow it works, magic, in 2Jears is payed
    Labour: prductive reproductive - maintanance, ...  many depend on labour outside. some work inside
    Care: maried with 30persons you didn't choose   (ecosystem of re
    Interre...  : some kids, some old but practically same age
    Education: good

Feminist Server:
Finance: non
Labour: own relatoin per sub-project
Care: speak lot about it, but don't apply

education: trying to go there, documentation

Shusha:
    electronnes (feminist small festival,  3 person doing all the work, all verry similar in the live situation, all single moms)
minimum of formal structure
care situation:
    for project: 
    for the outside of the project: kid allways comes first..  you will not burn out.

what is making Fun, anti burnout,
Fair contracts: Decition making processes, care, Security needs

Metabolism - Autopoesis and simtopiesis

Exploitation: Privatised: Defending, you can not manage funds
Proposal: Someone raises funds, as a service.
examples: https://sfconservancy.org/
circular: if you get money you would have to give 20% to a project you like.  (Nethood did this)

After thoughts:
    - "funding as a commons" including a wider set of "contributions" and recognition of individual needs and constraints
    - suspension string between "reliable" and "non-reliable", between "compromised" and "free". BUT ...
    - The trade-offs of "quantifications" 

Systemic structural problem:
Highly competitive surrounding, every recource accesible is directly exploited (capitalized)
Question: ambivalence: See ourselves outside this system, and in the same time depending from this system.

A model to assess:

Different tasks, and assessing them.

You do some tasks you are good at, and enjoy doing..
You do some tasks you are good at, but don't enjoy doing...
You do some tasks you are not good at, ...
You would like to do a task, but you are not yet good at it

Futurotopies...
Imagining relationships between organizations of funding, INitialitves to support the commons. Designate 20/30% that must be given to an organization, alternatives to reciprocity /
THinmking about the fundinc process as  Commons itself. How we acknowwledge this. How to avoid quantifying things we don't want to quantify at the end.
Structural problem: Everything is numbered, we work competitively, funding terms as well. // How to not take part in this problematic structure and yet still be dependent on it.

Software Freedom Conservancy project as an example: An org created specifically to support the legal processes, funding (smaller) free software projects
https://sfconservancy.org/
institutional interfaces

sustainability as metabolism

new definitions of reliability?
How to accept working less, accept the reality of people's situations of work.
Common infrastructure
Shifting the perception of what it means to be unreliability. Danger that we don't actually change

Felix: Example of how It's useful to not be "always on"
Nettime moderators were sometime "unreliable"
The fact that this wasn't realtime was really condusive to thinking
It may it possible to do for a very long time (pauses were possible, it didn't survive despite this, but because of it).

Only machines can be 24/7 ?
US: Capitalist system absorbs everything, so how to protect other forms of systems from this recuperation / exhautions
How to resist productivitist tendencies



3)   limitations in space and time, ending things (or releasing? or de-escalate? or recycle?) (ending things and not starting things??) 
   FSn, EW, PA, MM, FSt 
    https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/creatingcommons_3
List of TOS and checking in before starting a project of infrastructure
How to make failure not catastrophic? 


Each group: A speculative model (not too focused on the practical: imaginative API's, speculative protocols, ...)
Utopic... Dystopic --- too easy? (Felix) 
Pragmatic Utopia? Start with the 'constraints' of the concrete situation. Is this possible/desirable? Let's test it! Staying with the trouble.

Organisational Aesthetics http://creatingcommons.zhdk.ch/?p=462

https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/alessandro
https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/lioudmilla
https://pad.constantvzw.org/p/mauricio


F I N A L   R O U N D 

Daphne:
    - all wanted to avoid utopias and dystopia
    - agreement that something needs to change
    - hope not fullfilled: what is different now, in this phase of extreme polarization, what kind of infrastructure is needed now! 
    - Circular discussions ... 5 years, 3 years ago? How to really go a step forward?

Femke:
    - in some way it is the same discussion, but it's also a complicated task. So remember we cannot be impatient?
    - could be wilder in terms of the differences coming together
    - work has only begun
    - how to sustain the intensity necessary to be able to speak to each other across the different contexts
    
Alessandro
Lioudmilla
 = profesional lurker?

Mauri:
    - 4 years ago… first relation to the memory & discussing common problems, caring for the commons, Media Lab Prado
    - Common problems / different scenarios
    - Transdiciplinary, important to share, this is enriching
    - Sharing to overcome: fe. how understanding handing-over is important, the importance of educational community around a project (as for legacy), the relevance of "viralizing" initiatives.
    - it could have been worse/better

Alex
- vale, ... check!
- it was short! some questions needed more time. went quickly... some questions I was hoping to address more in Depth,
- leaving with more questions than answers
- it's strange that we talk about infrastructure in general ... physical infrastrugture is very different ... data collection / physical infrastrucutre / are they the same / how much not do they overlap
- do we need to be more specific?
- more attention to psychological consequences, to make sure it produces HAPPINESS.. feel I'm now surrounded by people dying in the process... will there be a next generation?
would be a good next day ... the question of burnout / physical sustainability
- transversality of feminist perspectives. Would be interested in more push for that, more feedback

Shusha
- inspirational, first of all
- not coming from a position of involvement, so new. happy we have the pads <3 <3 <3 (pad love)
- Great to have the/this/these pad(s)!
- interesting with respect to other relations to (educational) institutions, to reconsider own practices

Eva
- Meeting interesting practices
- Would have liked to unpack more what it means to do feminist infrastructures. 
- To talk tech seems easier, because of it having already established vocabularies.

Cornelia
- glad with pads and recordings. It will have a consequence, something will go on.
- wondering how participants can be involved
- agrees that it would be interesting to continue thinking through feminism, particularly in relation to commons, not ending with Federici, but update it to the 21st century, digital media. YES!
- parallel program of project on social media and how discussions in last days apply to it
- happy that we could advance the discussion on aesthetics, with every new contribution something becomes clearer. we can map what approaches can be.

Panos
- what is different? the urgency. 
- As an engineer: I appreciate the diversity. I ... The IP protocol is a constraint, because it's so concrete for everybody it allows for a diverstiy of application. Democracy has a concept of rotation... no matter what ruling group should change. 
- Because we do not have time, we need to value virality. things spread quickly
- Encoding in tools and infrastructure. Funding schemes that reward virality. Not by it's sucess but by it's replication.
- finding vocabularies for other values than 'founder' 'innovator' 'inventor' 'creator'. I amd the "replicator" of a model... I am the mushroomer ? 
Choose one thing, then acts in a contrsinaed.

Michael
- Pleased! Came with Tim Berners Lee: 'cool urls do not change, people do'. Putting the burden on people. We are suffering from the unproductive relation between people practices and tech infra.
- situated knowledges - on different roles, processes that support lifecycles. 
- interested in idea of living / transitional / dead data
- How feminism has something to say to technology

Urban
- Feels helpless with the question
- Where do the resources come from? It is always the same question. (like 100 Jears ago)
- Having in common: why is it we do what we do.
- Scale / function: are these need common questions for commercial enterprises as well? for a different aim
- Does everyone has the same problems/do companies ask the same thing?
- Values / Culture for the commons that lead to structures and tools.

Felix
- It was grrrrrrreat
- These are repeating questions, are we getting anywhere? But the context has changed.
- The pressure on / the practice for maintaining an infrastrucure that people rely on is even stronger. Some of the culture that was being feeding / is dissipating / Free Software Culture for instance has changed / 
- FLOSS culture and its functioning has changed
- Thinking of project backwards from the end... Having it lead to something else that is not you. Condense it, repackage it so that someone could take it over, know it without the full complexity with the realtime unfoldings ... simply condense ... how many pads to we have now? 6 or so... into something that someone who wasn't here could read. What comes after the end goes against the idea of an medium with an implied permanence.


( the situated timer: a button that you press to signal the end )




















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https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation

Thread: Publishing as a social practice / as infrastructures

Constant // Situations to think together

Thinking through scales of autonomy, sovereignity.
"promiscuous pipelines" -- interstices between scaleability and non-scaleable structures, of different scales

Developing affirmative ways of being embedded

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