hi everyone

earlier this week we were thinking abotu how to share the new... knowledge
everything we had gained from the assigned readings
it didnt feel like it would make sense for us just to make summaries
we all have read the same thing, right nah im built different? yeah indeed

introduction go THE ARTISTS' TEXT AS WORKS OF ART by Ilse van Rijn

introduction to ARTISTIC RESEARCH AND LITERATURE; Introducing Literature in the Discourse of Artistic Research by Corina Caduff and Tan Wälchli

3 chapters in TAXIDERMY FOR LANGUAGE ANIMALS; On Interpretation, Meeting and Ludwig Meeting Gertrude by Tine Melzer

(4) inaugural lecture WRITING ART AND CREATING BACK: WHAT CAN WE DO WITH ART (HISTORY)? by Christa-Maria Lerm Hayes

correct me if i'm wrong

there are a lot of interesting things to think about, to write about, with regard to language

we thought we could all write something together to reflect on our thoughts... BUT IT SHOULD BE FUN AS WELL!!!!

we wanted to maybe write about.... a meeting "All meetings require a certain mode of cooperation"
in the spirit of tine melzer we can think about a meeting of two people. two people we know. a fictional meeting. how would it go?
and who do we all know? we all know our teacher mia.

we can write about her meeting someone. who would mia like to meet?

maybe she would like to meet joseph beuys. i think she would very much like to meet him, if she had the chance... I'm not sure about that actually. we were projecting!
so, what we propose is that the 16(?yes) of us write a story together. about mia meeting beuys.

would you all like that?
mia you are welcome to join the story-writing, of course.

so first of all, we need to think of a common place. they are both german, so that's great. we're in germany.
maybe someone has an idea about a place? a cafe? a cinema? a museum?
i want to see them do a dj set in hor 
What about new york in the buulding where Josephf performed I love America and America loves me. He was a wolf 
I want to meet him in Ireland, please : - )

okay we are in germany and new york and ireland ficiotnal meetings let different times (and locationalities) meet
and they are dancing to a dj set on the opening of documenta in 2052.Ihe  YESstill alive then due to capitalist technoligical circumstances.
ITS PERFECT !!!!
What is the theme of documeta 2052? we went backwards/full circle. now it's 'individuals'.What are they doing there? next to partying? 



joseph is covered in fat and felt, of course. mia compliments his grease. Maybe he accidentaly touched the cone. THE CONE !!!
I feel like the music is so loud they are shouting to each other.WAS WAS WAS WAS WAS saaaaagt du? oder Sie?
WAAAAAAASSSSSS ???? i wish my german was better. 
 mia says "hallo joseph!!!!!!" more like "Professor Beuys!!!!!" for a start, I'm  polite.

 the cone and joseph are one. 
 is joseph arrogant???no he is a cone A CON(e) ARTIST
 Does he have hierarchies?

ideally not. does mia have hierarchies?

do they talk abotu that? maybe they talk about the beautiful german landscape in 2052??? everything is burned by then 
james joyce YES OF COURSE!!! FINNeGANS WAKE OR ULYSSES? I REALLY LIKE PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST, PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY UNDER/OVERRATED???
 ah genau

So then
and would they be producing art or art history if they are talking to each other ? maybe joseph is making art, everything he does is a performance, somehow? he builds on his persona... he greases himself up. to slide down a slippery slide very fast, i wonder?
what is all theorising making art history? if i am an art historian and i talk about art, am i then theorising art? or am i just talking to a cone?
and if i am a performance artist and i act performatively in public space, is everything i do art? or am i just having dinner with a friend?Dinner at a dj set at hor/documenta? or a cone? or talking to someone? i thhgfdsvcxfdsad i think amazing we started to read this in a cricle without being prompted.  its also good to keep editing!
"Where does art begin and life end?" 
Yes, because: 
    
     "we can see and read together, write, curate and create together with artists and audiences, with students in a collective, open, self-critical, never-ending effort at mean-ing-making and world-making with images and words.57 The isolated or talis-man function of art is, indeed, to be overcome: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH instead, we can intervene, appropriate moment for the intervention create and perpetuate force fields with the works of others and our own – in many voices, directly and indirectly. We’re occasionally and then multiply useful. We care."i really like this so i want to keep this reading going im going to make it so long you will have to ban me isabel you cannot silence me. silence my agenda.footnote missing or incorrect?
i'd never do that !
if mia and beuys are meeting, chilling, raving, getting freaky to a nice boiler room set, is he making art and she making art history concomitantly?  who cares?
or creating back
we are all artistorians (are we questionmark) no
Art we producing art writing right now? peepee i want to spread misinformation
What is true what is  a myth
mia: hell yeah! HAHHAHAHAHAHHA
i think it is quite smellty in there 
i: I have a question for you Joseph which is ... ?when did you last shower

beuys: yes? pray tell, i'm all ears, i'll do anything! i'm an ARTISTI !!!!!
(still furries and wolves crying/howling/runningshouting in the crowd to each other)

beuys: you said it was in a dream you meet me, well here i am: ask me anything. 
what do you think of the color scheme here? chaos
so many shades of pink  
beuys: oh please! if it isn't gray or military green felt and/or fat, i don't want to see it !!!(maybe a bit metalisch)
S-T-U-N-N-I-N-G.
I think a cPoIlNoKr PiIsN Kanp iinnkterpretation. It is light absorbed by an object
>>>>>WPUINNDKEPRIBNAKR<<<<
who else is there?
is it crowded?
A lot of Wolves and furries, honey and felt ALL DREAMS COME TRUE

mia: joseph, do you write your own text about your artworks?

joseph: yes of course

mia: (boring....)and what is your process?

joseph: i hire someone to write them for me! outsourcing is so 2052, so is writing
*awkward silence*
mia: but isn't that... uncreative writing...

joseph: outsourcing is hot. so are coyotes

mia: so you are writing the texts and not writing the texts?

joseph: yes of course. without my works the texts would not exist. maybe i do not perform the formal act of writing. the work writes the texts.Writing is the same as thinking, it happens, what did heidenegger say about thinking!!!!???????(is heidegger there too?????heidegger has entered the chat)hi im, ich bin heidegger  he is everywhere. (right, of course, forgot for a Is heidegger here? He is in the leapsec). i say we ban heidegger from this chat due to his affiliations. 
And Wittgenstein!
We cant think, we think we are thinkingthe language only exists between us
mia: ah. And how about the context: what happened in the last nearly 30 years after Documenta 15, when the educational aspect of your work was re-introduced into public discourse? Did you find that surprising?we want an answheres here!

joseph: E

mia: so if i write about your works then i am in fact writing for you?

joseph: yeah, pretty much. it's cool right?

mia: but i also have thoughts and a brain, you are taking credit for my big brain power!!! and you're dead!!! this feels super unfair, tbh.What isn't unfair?

who is the con(e) artist here? both write from the same color!!!!!scamming. responsibility of the interpreter. 
how authentic is this fiction 

okay... my brain feels really hot. my fingers are tired work harder, its about repitition? 
(body/mind) Cartesian dualism 

feeling ready to go 'back to the body?

i think it'd be cool to get back into my body.not allowed ur a cone, the cone-body
what happened to caps? Caps
with spoken words rather then written ones
we should take this back into the mouth
i would like for us all to read the pad together. we can take turns
i will start reading a bit from the top... and then we can go around in the rool maybe in the same way as with Lisa what Lisa?Liza
Will we be thinking 4 real then?We will just be performing thinking oh yes. 
fuck off heidegger

and now that we have read the pad together...

keep on reading slowly
i can not type that fast
no n we have to talk now
yes what isabel is saying
she types waajosephaaaaaayyyy faster than i can, damn
we nede to talk about what we've learnt
no more pad
stop the pad

no more reading from the pad
STOP READING FROM THE PAD !!!!!!

is this still on on some people's electronics?Yesyes