hello! the way how to make a pad here: this is the basic address: http://pad.constantvzw.org/p/ (it's not working with the p/ in the address, I could only access it as http://note.pad.constantvzw.org/index.html -sophia) sophia: you have to add a name immedately, like http://pad.constantvzw.org/p/testing, sorry for lack of precision -reni and then you add the name of your own document = you can write whatever you want and it gets created; once you have that, you send the link to the persons who you want to invite to share this document. you can always save your changes, so there is revision control, which means that you can go back to an earlie version, for example, if somebody deleted something you still wanted to keep. attention: usually these pads have a "life time". this means: if there are no changes made in a longer period, the pad automatically is deleted, because it is considered obsolete; this period (usually 1 month) depends on the setting of the server, resp. the people who run the server and service; in our case here: constant. what i usually do: i work on the text, then save it in the system (the 5-angle star in the right upper corner), and then additionally i copy it locally, as backup. and then also check out other possibilities in upper right corner, like changing your background color best reni --------- suggestions, how to involve more people, who are not in berlin (and therefore cannot join us physically) *can we have one moment = timeslot with a debate in IRC (or something similar?) *maybe at the presentation, or even after? suggestions for further people to invite, who live in berlin i would prefer that sophia and penny contact the others; then all communication comes together at you two, and also i have so much other stuff to do and communicate with so many other people that i dont want to have that sort of responsability right now. this also makes sense in terms of being sure that everyone gets the same information & same sense of the overall project. 1) spideralex: spideralex@riseup.net she is part of the anarcha-server-project; she is also part of the catalan colective lelacoders, who did a series of great interviews with feminist hackers: http://vimeo.com/73930200 and was one of the organisers of the THF transhackfeminist meeting in calafou 2014 2) vali djordjevic: valid@faces-l.net one of the founders of faces, a mailinglist, found in the end of the 1990ies, women only, about tech, art and feminism she is also an expert on copy right, and free /remix / culture one of her last posts: For the Berlin Faces: *Next Wednesday, November 26th, ThoughtWorks will host a cryptoparty at their 'Werkstatt' in Prenzlauer Berg. This party is explicitly for women and people who identify as female. *Did you always want to communicate securely by mail? Encrypt your hard drive? Chat without being overheard? Cryptoparties offer a relaxed setting to learn encryption tools for everyday use. Prior knowledge of any kind is not required, except curiosity and the ability to ask a lot of questions. Cryptoparties are very practical, i.e. bringing a laptop with you where you can directly install and try out the software is a plus. *Here is a link to the event: https://www.cryptoparty.in/berlin/pberg_thoughtworks_women *and there is the location on OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2874106613#map=19/52.53243/13.41954 *The party starts around 19:00. *A CryptoParty is free, public and fun. People bring their computers, mobile devices, and a willingness to learn! *Topics: basic cryptography software and the fundamental concepts of their operation to the general public, such as the Tor anonymity network, public key encryption (PGP/GPG), and OTR (Off The Record messaging). 3) helen mentioned anne roth: annalist@riseup.net long time indymedia collaborator, also strongly focuses on privacy issues and politcs part of /etc 4) Diana McCarty: diana.mccarty@gmail.com one of the founders of faces-mailinglist artist, radio activist Donna's suggestions: *1) Ushi Reiter - because she's techie (can setup a wiki or a drupal site in a blink of the eye and lots more i am sure), a feminist and artist, though i am not sure if in new media or old media. - helen agrees, ushi would be great :) *2) Marthe van Dessel - beacause she always has such wise and interesting things to say. artist and working on the anarcha server. - helen - yes *3) Ivana Pavic - because she's a sysasdmin (we need practitioners in the panel) and feminist and free software advocate since the longest time. helen - yes *4) Someone from Samedies, perhaps Juliane De Moerlooze? or Agnes Bewer ? helen - yes agnez; don't know juliane reni: i like all your suggestions a lot - i was focusing on people living in berlin; these are really good, too! Cornelia's Suggestions: 1) Karen Eliot (Hacker/artist/ open identity project) 2) Rena Tangens (political activist, Digital courage e.v.) 3) Claudia Becker (digital thought leader) Daphne Dragona's Suggestions (Transmediale): Sarah Kember / academic and author of life after new media (kristoffer has already mentioned her your workgroup) Laurel Ptak / curator and writer , author of the wages for facebook after the wages for housework zach blas / artist theorist queer + gender related stuff (not so much fem tech) Carolin Gerlitz and Anne Helmond / academic social media scholar Tiziana terranova Erica Scourti / Artist Judy Wajcman / academic sociologist Shu Lea Cheang/ Artist Ruth Catlow - helen - ruth would be great Marc Garret Sarah Grant (subnod) Penny: From Daphne's list I suggest to invite to the workgroup discussion the following people: Laurel Ptak Tiziana Terranova Shu Lea Cheang Ruth Catlow Marc Garrett Sarah Grant (subnod) helen: there is also audrey samson who will apparently be at Transmediale; i'm not sure how much she has been involved with server things, but she has been part of /etc/genderchangers & does interesting hardware/arduino art things. mail@ideacritik.com - & Lara Blasic, who is in London, connected to Furtherfield, Flossie, Libre Graphics --- jit.si 23.12.2014 software to show during the workshop jitsi duckduckgo jabber irc gpg iceweasel enigmail disconnect.me https everywhere ghostery adblock plus + encryption apps for smartphones (will ask ushi and others to fill in here...) open office pirate pad etherpad https://techtoolsforactivism.org/booklet Workgroup discussion is closed and only for invited participants e.g. the 7 of us, our suggested invitees from Berlin and possibly some people from Transmediale (see Daphne's suggested list above) Hands-on workshop: this can be open. This means that we can work as a group either only the 7 of us or with some of the invited people from the workgroup discussion, but there may be the possibility of other people/audience audit. Another option is that we ask for specific number of people to register so we know in advance how many extra people want to take part in the hands-on workshop. If you think that this is really not a good plan, then we can have the hands-on workshop also as a closed activities with only the 7 of us working on it. Let me know what you think. s ... reni 10:10:41 helen: i thought more of a constant suportq team, baeming everywhere helen 10:10:56 it sounds great Donna 10:10:58 cool helen 10:14:30 reni is breaking up again helen 10:14:47 we lost donna helen 10:15:13 putting theory into practice takes time, & people today think that they don't have time reni 10:15:21 yes, i agree helen 10:15:30 we have to remember that we do have time reni 10:15:36 YES! helen 10:15:46 how about a "time making" workshop? reni 10:15:50 juhuq! helen 10:16:00 i'm sure there's an app for it helen 10:18:37 discussion: theory of how to move from theory to practice; workshop: practically moving into practice feminist concepts never "belong" to anyone Donna 10:36:41 it's more proces than product helen 10:36:46 yep helen 10:40:50 i would also like to go helen 10:40:53 i've got lots to do ... Donna 10:41:29 i mean more methodology, the focus Donna 10:43:46 can u hear me helen in the jitsi chat repeating what Donna suggested: heading in the pad: what you want to get out of the discussion and workshop