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hello!

the way how to make a pad here:

this is the basic address:
     http://pad.constantvzw.org/p/    (it's not working with the p/ in the address, I could only access it as http://note.pad.constantvzw.org/index.html -sophia)
     sophia: you have to add a name immedately, like http://pad.constantvzw.org/p/testing , sorry for lack of precision -reni
and 
then you add the name of your own document = you can write whatever you want and it gets created;
once you have that, you send the link to the persons who you want to invite to share this document.

you can always save your changes, so there is revision control, which means that you can go back to an earlie version, for example, if somebody deleted something you still wanted to keep.

attention:
    usually these pads have a "life time". this means: if there are no changes made in a longer period, the pad automatically is deleted, because it is considered obsolete; this period (usually 1 month) depends on the setting of the server, resp. the people who run the server and service; in our case here: constant.
what i usually do: i work on the text, then save it in the system (the 5-angle star in the right upper corner), and then additionally i copy it locally, as backup.

and then also check out other possibilities in upper right corner, like changing your background color 

best
reni

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suggestions, how to involve more people, who are not in berlin (and therefore cannot join us physically)

• can we have one moment = timeslot with a debate in IRC (or something similar?)
• maybe at the presentation, or even after?

suggestions for further people to invite, who live in berlin

i would prefer that sophia and penny contact the others; then all communication comes together at you two, and also i have so much other stuff to do and communicate with so many other people that i dont want to have that sort of responsability right now. this also makes sense in terms of being sure that everyone gets the same information & same sense of the overall project.

  1)  
  spideralex: spideralex@riseup.net
    she is part of the anarcha-server-project; she is also part of the catalan colective lelacoders, who did a series of great interviews with feminist hackers: 
http://vimeo.com/73930200
and was one of the organisers of the THF transhackfeminist meeting in calafou 2014

  2) 
    vali djordjevic: valid@faces-l.net
    one of the founders of faces, a mailinglist, found in the end of the 1990ies, women only, about tech, art and feminism
    she is also an expert on copy right, and free /remix / culture
    one of her last posts:
          For the Berlin Faces: 

• Next Wednesday, November 26th, ThoughtWorks will host a cryptoparty at their 'Werkstatt' in Prenzlauer Berg. This party is explicitly for women and people who identify as female.
• Did you always want to communicate securely by mail? Encrypt your hard drive? Chat without being overheard? Cryptoparties offer a relaxed setting to learn encryption tools for everyday use. Prior knowledge of any kind is not required, except curiosity and the ability to ask a lot of questions. Cryptoparties are very practical, i.e. bringing a laptop with you where you can directly install and try out the software is a plus. 
• Here is a link to the event: https://www.cryptoparty.in/berlin/pberg_thoughtworks_women
• and there is the location on OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2874106613#map=19/52.53243/13.41954
• The party starts around 19:00.
• A CryptoParty is free, public and fun. People bring their computers, mobile devices, and a willingness to learn!
• Topics: basic cryptography software and the fundamental concepts of their operation to the general public, such as the Tor anonymity network, public key encryption (PGP/GPG), and OTR (Off The Record messaging).

  3)
  helen mentioned anne roth: annalist@riseup.net
  long time indymedia collaborator, also strongly focuses on privacy issues and politcs
  part of /etc

  4)
  Diana McCarty: diana.mccarty@gmail.com
  one of the founders of faces-mailinglist
  artist, radio activist

Donna's suggestions:
    

• 1) Ushi Reiter - because she's techie (can setup a wiki or a drupal site in a blink of the eye and lots more i am sure), a feminist and artist, though i am not sure if in new media or old media. - helen agrees, ushi would be great :)
• 2) Marthe van Dessel - beacause she always has such wise and interesting things to say. artist and working on the anarcha server. - helen - yes
• 3) Ivana Pavic - because she's a sysasdmin (we need practitioners in the panel) and feminist and free software advocate since the longest time. helen - yes
• 4) Someone from Samedies, perhaps Juliane De Moerlooze? or Agnes Bewer ? helen - yes agnez; don't know juliane

reni: i like all your suggestions a lot - i was focusing on people living in berlin; these are really good, too!

Cornelia's Suggestions:
    
    1) Karen Eliot (Hacker/artist/ open identity project)
    2) Rena Tangens (political activist, Digital courage e.v.)
    3) Claudia Becker (digital thought leader) 

Daphne Dragona's Suggestions (Transmediale):
     Sarah Kember / academic and author of life after new media (kristoffer has already mentioned her your workgroup) 
     Laurel Ptak / curator and writer , author of the wages for facebook after the wages for housework 
     zach blas / artist theorist queer + gender related stuff (not so much fem tech) 
     Carolin Gerlitz and Anne Helmond / academic social media scholar 
     Tiziana terranova 
     Erica Scourti / Artist 
     Judy Wajcman / academic sociologist 
     Shu Lea Cheang/ Artist  
     Ruth Catlow  - helen - ruth would be great
     Marc Garret
     Sarah Grant (subnod)
     
    Penny: From Daphne's list I suggest to invite to the workgroup discussion the following people:
         Laurel Ptak
         Tiziana Terranova
         Shu Lea Cheang
         Ruth Catlow
         Marc Garrett
         Sarah Grant (subnod)
         
         
helen: there is also audrey samson who will apparently be at Transmediale; i'm not sure how much she has been involved with server things, but she has been part of /etc/genderchangers & does interesting hardware/arduino art things. mail@ideacritik.com
- & Lara Blasic, who is in London, connected to Furtherfield, Flossie, Libre Graphics

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jit.si 23.12.2014
software to show during the workshop
jitsi
duckduckgo
jabber
irc
gpg
iceweasel
enigmail
disconnect.me
https everywhere
ghostery
adblock plus

+ encryption apps for smartphones (will ask ushi and others to fill in here...)

open office
pirate pad
etherpad

https://techtoolsforactivism.org/booklet

Workgroup discussion is closed and only for invited participants e.g. the 7  of us, our suggested invitees from Berlin and possibly some people from Transmediale (see Daphne's suggested list above)

Hands-on workshop: this can be open. This means that we can work as a group either only the 7 of us or with some of the invited people from the workgroup discussion, but there may be the possibility of other people/audience audit. Another option is that 
we ask for specific number of people to register so we know in advance how many extra people want to take part in the hands-on workshop. If you think that this is really not a good plan, then we can have the hands-on workshop also as a closed  activities with only the 7 of us working on it. Let me know what you think.

s ...
reni
10:10:41
helen: i thought more of a constant suportq team, baeming everywhere
helen
10:10:56
it sounds great 
Donna
10:10:58
cool
helen
10:14:30
reni is breaking up again 
helen
10:14:47
we lost donna
helen
10:15:13
putting theory into practice takes time, & people today think that they don't have time
reni
10:15:21
yes, i agree
helen
10:15:30
we have to remember that we do have time
reni
10:15:36
YES!
helen
10:15:46
how about a "time making" workshop?
reni
10:15:50
juhuq!
helen
10:16:00
i'm sure there's an app for it

helen
10:18:37
discussion: theory of how to move from theory to practice; workshop: practically moving into practice

feminist concepts never "belong" to anyone
Donna
10:36:41
it's more proces than product
helen
10:36:46
yep
helen
10:40:50
i would also like to go
helen
10:40:53
i've got lots to do ...
Donna
10:41:29
i mean more methodology, the focus
Donna
10:43:46
can u hear me

helen in the jitsi chat repeating what Donna suggested: heading in the pad: what you want to get out of the discussion and workshop