logs / [our chat is logged] [15:23] == natacha [~webchat@151.216.omp.j] has joined #etc [15:24] we are with martha in the toilets of fosdem streaming to you [15:25] we just had a long discussion with the Fosdem staff about us being here [15:26] there concern was that we did not officially asked for putting a table in the toilet although martha had talked to someone asking for network [15:29] discussion also happened we were objected that Fosdem did not want to take any political stance [15:30] then martha said to retire in our safe space and closed the toilet door [15:30] what political stance would that be? [15:32] now we have a discussion with a women staff member telling that she thinks those discussion should happened but as a staff member she says not as hack in the toilet [15:33] question do you think you have a responsibility to contribute mixity on the internet [15:34] response I do but not evry one does because not everybody has the means to contribute [15:34] we are about to start building the virtual toilet here [15:39] the women just left she is concerned that the organiser call security she is now went to negociate for us [15:39] LOL [15:41] and explain for us that we will not stay overnight in the toilet, and that we are not in an agressive position [15:43] She came back saying that she negociated for us toput a BOV room in the toilet because we think it is meaningfull and also because bov rooms are always full [15:43] == ida [~webchat@z85-289-226-304.cust.tele6.se] has joined #etc [15:43] hi [15:44] i shal like to know/ have list about some encrypted tools or software-freeware..? [15:45] hi ida [15:45] hi [15:45] encrypted tools for video chat? [15:46] i used google and browser to book sometimes travel and other . Not video chat i dont use it [15:47] do you know the torproject.org [15:47] it is for browsing without leaving a trace or identity [15:47] ok yes i read about it [15:47] k [15:48] we just experimented with alternatives to skype [15:48] but i dont know i have the feeling is about facebook too and then possibility to mirror my screen and traces as well and email [15:48] ok yes [15:48] and there is jitsi and vmux where you don't have to give any information when you use it [15:49] k [15:49] I mean you don't have to make an account and give information. [15:49] k [15:49] I don't know about mirroring your screen. do you think facebook can do that? [15:50] I think to mirror your screen someone has to break into your computer. [15:50] is it possible than when i am in fb some people can take identity and send - follow via android-iphone appli? -- i turn off follower in fb and off my chat there too - [15:52] you mean they follow you? [15:52] sure one time my apple account was took and then my apple mac was off and i could not acces to my old apple account.. [15:52] yes track [15:52] oh dear [15:52] what did you do then? [15:53] i just bought a pc ;) not fun ;) [15:53] ok [15:53] but good idea [15:53] maybe it is also important to choose a strong password? [15:54] ah ah yes but they track too and yes i change often my password [15:54] and change it very often [15:54] ok [15:54] :-) [15:54] did you try installing linux? [15:54] ubuntu for example [15:54] but looks like they can bya short distance to my pc rack what i am doing dont know how to explain it in tecnical terms [15:55] i can install linux yes [15:55] ok [15:55] you can also install it on a mac. [15:55] i have 2 systems on my mac [15:55] i was in school swedish course surrounded by good programmers man and i felt many times it [15:56] yes like to divide your drive [15:56] or there is this app called virtual box. [15:56] and you start the linux inside the osx [15:56] :-) [15:56] a bit slow but I use it for email [15:57] == transmediale [~webchat@213.61.is.ysu] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [15:57] == transmediale [~webchat@213.61.is.ysu] has joined #etc [15:57] ok [15:57] are there female hackerspaces where you live? [15:58] mm it was in umeå before i was in theiremaillist [15:58] umeå :-) [15:58] I was there once. [15:58] i follow gca queer emaillist too they have good advices i think [15:58] ahhhh [15:59] where you part of organising /etc in umeå? [15:59] i think i will install linux and then this virtual box [15:59] yes etc [16:00] cool [16:00] but i was not organiser [16:00] and i am not hackers too [16:00] ;-) [16:00] :-) [16:00] is it possible to contact apple and ask them if they can find person or id of the person who stole my accont? [16:01] try! [16:01] yes [16:01] I have no experience with that. [16:01] do you have a clue who was t? [16:02] who was it? [16:02] i think but not prove possible, it s neighbouring in my city [16:02] well a bit complex to eplain it here [16:02] ok [16:03] but was kind of joke maybe but they use it to hack me and track and maybe send some spam from me [16:03] i have in real life lot of problems now [16:04] can you change the password back so they cannot use your account any more? [16:04] i dont have access anymore [16:04] i tried [16:04] is tghe account connected to your emai adress? [16:04] email [16:05] well is this apple account online you register you via your email in order to upload it when you buy an apple [16:05] i didnot have such problem before with apple [16:05] do you still have access to your email account? [16:05] yes [16:06] can you ask to send you a new password to your email acoount? [16:06] i created a new email but still have a lot i this old [16:06] i can try but these people are tracking my email [16:07] sometimes to log in there is a button saying 'forgot your password' [16:07] and when you click tehre they send you a new password [16:07] yes i do it often [16:08] is it working for access to the apple account? [16:08] i changed the name and password of my laptop too [16:08] == bastubis [~webchat@75.512.566.77.static-uk.cryptolayer.com] has joined #etc [16:08] I am going to fetch some tea - do you want one? ;-) [16:09] i am going to continue to work but thanks for tips [16:09] have a good tea session [16:10] == ida [~webchat@z85-289-226-304.cust.tele6.se] has quit [Quit: Page closed] [16:11] == bastubis [~webchat@75.512.566.77.static-uk.cryptolayer.com] has quit [Client Quit] [16:15] sinobell. it is a significant part of beeing a cityzent of norway; so yes [16:18] the virtual toilet is coming along well [16:18] what is happening there? [16:18] we are also making feminist toilet paper [16:18] ill show you with webcam [16:19] be patient, there is a bit of lag @ChanServ@donna@gaba@jessibHighVoltage_natachanivSandra_Sarala_transmediale