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[15:23] == natacha [~webchat@151.216.omp.j] has joined #etc
[15:24] <natacha> we are with martha in the toilets of fosdem streaming
to you
[15:25] <natacha> we just had a long discussion with the Fosdem staff
about us being here
[15:26] <natacha> there concern was that we did not officially asked for
putting a table in the toilet although martha had talked to someone
asking for network
[15:29] <natacha> discussion also happened we were objected that Fosdem
did not want to take any political stance
[15:30] <natacha> then martha said to retire in our safe space and
closed the toilet door
[15:30] <niv> what political stance would that be?
[15:32] <natacha> now we have a discussion with a women staff member
telling that she thinks those discussion should happened but as a staff
member she says not as hack in the toilet
[15:33] <natacha> question do you think you have a responsibility to
contribute mixity on the internet
[15:34] <natacha> response I do but not evry one does because not
everybody has the means to contribute
[15:34] <transmediale> we are about to start building the virtual toilet
here
[15:39] <natacha> the women just left she is concerned that the
organiser call security she is now went to negociate for us
[15:39] <niv> LOL
[15:41] <natacha> and explain for us that we will not stay overnight in
the toilet, and that we are not in an agressive position
[15:43] <natacha> She came back saying that she negociated for us toput
a BOV room in the toilet because we think it is meaningfull and also
because bov rooms are always full
[15:43] == ida [~webchat@z85-289-226-304.cust.tele6.se] has joined #etc
[15:43] <ida> hi
[15:44] <ida> i shal like to know/ have list about some encrypted tools
or software-freeware..?
[15:45] <niv> hi ida
[15:45] <ida> hi
[15:45] <niv> encrypted tools for video chat?
[15:46] <ida> i used google and browser to book sometimes travel and
other . Not video chat i dont use it
[15:47] <niv> do you know the torproject.org
[15:47] <niv> it is for browsing without leaving a trace or identity
[15:47] <ida> ok yes i read about it
[15:47] <ida> k
[15:48] <niv> we just experimented with alternatives to skype
[15:48] <ida> but i dont know i have the feeling is about facebook too
and then possibility to mirror my screen and traces as well and email
[15:48] <ida> ok yes
[15:48] <niv> and there is jitsi and vmux where you don't have to give
any information when you use it
[15:49] <ida> k
[15:49] <niv> I mean you don't have to make an account and give information.
[15:49] <ida> k
[15:49] <niv> I don't know about mirroring your screen. do you think
facebook can do that?
[15:50] <niv> I think to mirror your screen someone has to break into
your computer.
[15:50] <ida> is it possible than when i am in fb some people can take
identity and send - follow via android-iphone appli? -- i turn off
follower in fb and off my chat there too -
[15:52] <niv> you mean they follow you?
[15:52] <ida> sure one time my apple account was took and then my apple
mac was off and i could not acces to my old apple account..
[15:52] <ida> yes track
[15:52] <niv> oh dear
[15:52] <niv> what did you do then?
[15:53] <ida> i just bought a pc ;) not fun ;)
[15:53] <niv> ok
[15:53] <niv> but good idea
[15:53] <niv> maybe it is also important to choose a strong password?
[15:54] <ida> ah ah yes but they track too and yes i change often my
password
[15:54] <niv> and change it very often
[15:54] <niv> ok
[15:54] <niv>  :-)
[15:54] <niv> did you try installing linux?
[15:54] <niv> ubuntu for example
[15:54] <ida> but looks like they can bya short distance to my pc rack
what i am doing dont know how to explain it in tecnical terms
[15:55] <ida> i can install linux yes
[15:55] <ida> ok
[15:55] <niv> you can also install it on a mac.
[15:55] <niv> i have 2 systems on my mac
[15:55] <ida> i was in school swedish course surrounded by good
programmers man and i felt many times it
[15:56] <ida> yes like to divide your drive
[15:56] <niv> or there is this app called virtual box.
[15:56] <niv> and you start the linux inside the osx
[15:56] <niv> :-)
[15:56] <niv> a bit slow but I use it for email
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[15:57] <ida> ok
[15:57] <niv> are there female hackerspaces where you live?
[15:58] <ida> mm it was in umeå before i was in theiremaillist
[15:58] <niv> umeå :-)
[15:58] <niv> I was there once.
[15:58] <ida> i follow gca queer emaillist too they have good advices i
think
[15:58] <niv> ahhhh
[15:59] <niv> where you part of organising /etc in umeå?
[15:59] <ida> i think i will install linux and then this virtual box
[15:59] <ida> yes etc
[16:00] <niv> cool
[16:00] <ida> but i was not organiser
[16:00] <ida> and i am not hackers too
[16:00] <niv> ;-)
[16:00] <ida> :-)
[16:00] <ida> is it possible to contact apple and ask them if they can
find person or id of the person who stole my accont?
[16:01] <niv> try!
[16:01] <ida> yes
[16:01] <niv> I have no experience with that.
[16:01] <niv> do you have a clue who was t?
[16:02] <niv> who was it?
[16:02] <ida> i think but not prove possible, it s neighbouring in my city
[16:02] <ida> well a bit complex to eplain it here
[16:02] <niv> ok
[16:03] <ida> but was kind of joke maybe but they use it to hack me and
track and maybe send some spam from me
[16:03] <ida> i have in real life lot of problems now
[16:04] <niv> can you change the password back so they cannot use your
account any more?
[16:04] <ida> i dont have access anymore
[16:04] <ida> i tried
[16:04] <niv> is tghe account connected to your emai adress?
[16:04] <niv> email
[16:05] <ida> well is this apple account online you register you via
your email in order to upload it when you buy an apple
[16:05] <ida> i didnot have such problem before with apple
[16:05] <niv> do you still have access to your email account?
[16:05] <ida> yes
[16:06] <niv> can you ask to send you a new password to your email acoount?
[16:06] <ida> i created a new email but still have a lot i this old
[16:06] <ida> i can try but these people are tracking my email
[16:07] <niv> sometimes to log in there is a button saying 'forgot your
password'
[16:07] <niv> and when you click tehre they send you a new password
[16:07] <ida> yes i do it often
[16:08] <niv> is it working for access to the apple account?
[16:08] <ida> i changed the name and password of my laptop too
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[16:08] <niv> I am going to fetch some tea - do you want one? ;-)
[16:09] <ida> i am going to continue to work but thanks for tips
[16:09] <ida> have a good tea session
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[16:15] <natacha> sinobell. it is a significant part of beeing a
cityzent of norway; so yes
[16:18] <transmediale> the virtual toilet is coming along well
[16:18] <niv> what is happening there?
[16:18] <transmediale> we are also making feminist toilet paper
[16:18] <transmediale> ill show you with webcam
[16:19] <transmediale> be patient, there is a bit of lag
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