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Why Poetry:
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The human aspect.
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Poetry as the parent of music in the book Logic, Ontology, and the Art of Poetry; being the fourth and fifth volumes of the Circle of the Sciences. Considerably enlarged, and greatly improved. By T. Carnan & F. Newbery, 1776
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https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=P15iAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=no&pg=GBS.PP3
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"Hence Poetry became the parent of mu?ick, and indeed of dancing; for the method of mea?uring the time of their verfes, per Arfin et Thefin, and of beat ing the bars or divi?ions of mu?ick, gave rife, we may ?uppo?e, to this art, and taught the feet al?o to expre?s the tran?ports of the foul. * To the truth of the?e refle?tions, which are drawn from nature, every one will affent, who confiders how he is af fe?ted by Poetry and mufick ; for no man can refi?t the natural impul?e he will have to dance, or agitate the body at certain combinations of words and of founds, unle?s he be nnhappily poffe?s'd of one of tho?e gloomy minds de?cribed by Shake?peare."
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Herman de Vries
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Automist and randomized
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Zero movement
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Easy / Doable
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An end product satisfactory enough,
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Choosing poetry because it is possible to "pull off" an illution of artistry.
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Yet to succeed at doing something more sophisticated would be rather difficult.
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In a world with more advanced computer one can start to look at new challenges
Meta Functions:
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undermine the bourgeois idea of autorship and of art as something to be consumed by a public .
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tzara's dadaist poem.
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show the non-sense of a set of texts that seem to be indiscernible from their machine-generated parodies .
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automatic insurrection, post-modern generator,
http://stuff2233.club:9001/p/dada_engine
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgen
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give aid to poets, by bringing up associations in a seemingly undetermined manner .
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janus node = mc poet
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test the advancement of artificial intelligence, by comparing it to the supposed most-human and highest? creative endeavor, poetry .
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ray kurzweil's cyber poet
Examples:
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Ray Kurzweil's Aaron
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Slogan: We create softwares that create art
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http://www.kurzweilcyberart.com/aaron/hi_essays.html
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http://www.usask.ca/art/digital_culture/wiebe/index.html
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Chris Westbury's MacPoet
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Year: mid-80s
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Slogan: "Doing to poetry what McDonald's did to food"
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Opening quote: And here are you a writer, infinitely original and endowed with a sensibility that is charming though beyond the understanding of the vulgar. --Tristan Tzara
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Classifies itself as Dadaware
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Ending quote from manifest:
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If you need further purpose for McPoet than such clarification, consider it as a
Dadaist art object,
a symbol of the human condition, an exercise in bringing absurdist literature into the computer age, a machine for studying the relationship between syntax and semantics, a tool box for conducting experiments to examine your own epistemological structure, or as an 'idea maker'.
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McPoet has constructed many lines which made me laugh and wonder. Perhaps ultimately the program is good for nothing other than this. I do not believe that one could ask much more of anything in life.
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More on MacPoet:
http://stuff2233.club:9001/p/cyber_poetry_mcpoet
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Chris Westbury's JanusNode
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Year: Version 1: 2012, version 2 2015.
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Opening quote: Same as MacPoet
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http://janusnode.com/
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Who:
https://www.ualberta.ca/~chrisw/
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Chris Westbury: " ... to explore the interesting phenomena which exist at the border of one of the fundamental dualities of the human condition: that dynamic border which divides order from chaos, law from anarchy, meaning from absurdity."
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DadaEngine
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The Dada Engine is a system for generating random text from grammars.It compiles and runs on (most) UNIX-like systems.
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Year: 1996
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http://stuff2233.club:9001/p/dada_engine
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http://dev.null.org/dadaengine/
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Gnoetry 2.0 prepared by Eric Goddard-Scovel
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https://gnoetrydaily.wordpress.com/
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Programmer Richard Leopold
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who wrote one of Sollfrank’s generators credits Dada as its main in-
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spiration and calls the generated pages “Dada content” (but employs
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Markov chains instead of permutation as the generative algorithm).
http://net.art-generator.com/moiNAG/
http://artwarez.org/projects/nagBOOK/texte/richard_eng.html
\\ interview of sollfrank to leopold..
The automatist approach to poetry:
How to Make a Dadaist Poem according to the method of Tristan Tzara
To make a Dadaist poem:
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Take a newspaper.
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Take a pair of scissors.
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Choose an article as long as you are planning to make your poem.
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Cut out the article.
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Then cut out each of the words that make up this articleand put them in a bag.
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Shake it gently.
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Then take out the scraps one after the other in the order in which they left the bag.
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Copy conscientiously.
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The poem will be like you.
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And here are you a writer, infinitely original and endowed with a sensibility that is charming though beyond the understanding of the vulgar.
--Tristan Tzara
Reading list for a time with more time: